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Topic: Wide Screen vs Sq - Prevents me using!

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DontPanic (5 months ago)
During Photosynth v1 I used Photosynth's for many projects like www.CoMesaGJ.com where I stretch 100% width and wow!!!

but I went to do the same thing with an amazing Photosynth v2 preview and got a silly Square and it ruins the entire project so I'm having to go back to v1 without the amazing v2 processing or remove Photosynth all together!

Please Photosynth Teams give us options and features. Don't assume and just go simple please build a platform not a product. Since Windows 3.1 this has been proven over and over we want choices and options even if there's a negative result. I would be totally ok with a blur effect if artifacts are the concern or any other degrading. But to just cut it off is frustrating.

Here is the prototype of what I ended up with using PSv1 instead 
http://www.skydivegj.com/
I had planned to use a PSv2 walk skydive in the middle of the screen and the video on the top but looks like crap at 1400x300! Why?
NateLawrence (5 months ago)
I thought you could appreciate a quote from the end of Blaise's last public talk about Photosynth before he left Microsoft.
I made a little playlist on YouTube of highlights which inform the last quote that you can watch here: http://bit.ly/beyondtheframe
Here's the salient quotes: 

"You also have to in-paint when you do this because you dis-occlude places where perhaps neither image has actually seen so you have to hallucinate into the holes as well."

"I will say that the hallucination that we've been experimenting with in order to fill the holes is something that we're very much thinking about as a mechanism for dispensing with the rectangular frames. The rectangular frames only make sense, of course, from (even if the the sources of the imagery are rectangular imagers, they only make sense from) the exact point of view that those original images were taken."
NateLawrence (5 months ago)
"And because this technology allows you to extrapolate the view outside of those original perspectives, you can start to think about these kinds of beautiful generalizations or hallucinations that break the frame and we're very interested in that. 

And of course the next step is to take these swoops - these manifolds of camera positions and start to interconnect them in order to create something that's not single surfaces but, you know - to extend the railroad metaphor, railroads that begin to cross and interconnect and form a web."

Time will tell how much the rest of the team holds to that now that Blaise has moved on or how soon that is successful enough that they feel they can publicly release it, but I'd say it's safe to say that the topic is on their minds.
DontPanic (5 months ago)
I made sure to upload 16:9 or wider so I would have the right ratio for my project but... 

could someone build a playlist of photosynth widget for embedding in websites too. Like my hand built one at www.comesagj.com vertical and horizontal please. 
like the YouTube playlist. 

why has blink got so much push but photosynth hasn't? Blink built in to socl.
PhotosynthTeam (5 months ago)
@DontPanic When you want wider field of view than is offered in a single photo, then you definitely want the stitched panorama processing (referred to in this thread as Photosynth V1). We plan to keep that around because it's exactly what you want if there is very little parallax or motion in the scene. We'd like to stitch these in the cloud to remove the requirement of using desktop ICE. It's on the list. Photosynth V2 (as it's informally known) does not supersede stitched panoramas. It's an alternative to them. Does that help?
PhotosynthTeam (5 months ago)
And yes, the playlist idea is a good one. Our viewer is being refactored right now to allow a ne synth to be opened on an existing canvas without a page reload. That's step 1.
DontPanic (5 months ago)
What if I want a walk or wall at 1400x300? Even if u blur the outside of the photo it would look better. Spins too. 

I was planning on using a spin for an airplane and walks as skydiving but 4:3 looks very poor and takes up alot of space. About 300-400 height is all I can give photosynths. Making the width 300-400 now which looks bad.
DontPanic (5 months ago)
I guess I don't understand, almost all of my uploads are 16:9 or wider, yet I can only get 4:3 out of Photosynth, the iframe does do what I ask but Photosynth doesn't. You said anything bigger than a single image but I'm uploading images at 12MP way large enough to cover a 1400x300 area by 3-5 times. But it seem like you are enforcing a 4:3 ration. It's easy to test, just window your screen while looking at a Photosynth and make it as wide as your screen but only 1/3 the height and you'll see how poorly it looks. 
To get 16:9 wide just cut off the top and zoom out a little and I'd be happy.
DontPanic (5 months ago)
never mind I guess that's what I uploaded. I would have deleted the post above but didn't see a way to.
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