Topic: Off the grid

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videethis (Over 1 year ago)
Im exploring new ways every day to take killer photos with Photosynth... (I'm in love with this app) I wish there was a way to make it so I could take pictures in a fully manual mode(off the grid). This could really blow the creative doors off the app.  Any plans for the future?
Nathanael (Over 1 year ago)
Interesting suggestion. It seems like it would be bad, though, if people changed this option (if it got added to the app), not knowing what it did and then didn't know why the app didn't automatically take photos any more or how to turn auto-mode back on.

The Photosynth team could make a totally manual-shooting-mode optional at the beginning of every synth, but make auto capture the default, but that would be less than great for someone like you who would almost always want manual.
Nathanael (Over 1 year ago)
Out of curiosity... 
I'm sure you're aware of the ability to take a manual shot at any time by tapping the centre of the screen. Why doesn't that option work for what you want to shoot with the app? 

I guess I'm just curious as to what auto-capture is doing that is getting in your way and wondering why the 'Undo' option to get rid of undesired auto-captured shots doesn't fit your needs. 

In other words, the mobile panorama app will really only stitch well panoramas taken where the lens was residing at a single point of view. You have a constant way to take manual shots (tapping the screen) and a way to undo any unwanted auto-captured shots, so is the full manual mode that you're wanting just for convenience's sake (instead of a constant rhythm of undoing auto-captured shots)? 

I'm just trying to understand better where you're going with this request.
videethis (Over 1 year ago)
Honestly, I would prefer to have the option with every new synth. After taking many shots already I would love to try shooting as I move around and see how the program handles it. I have tried this already with slow movements and have had interesting results. I'm not really using Photosynth for photo realism... I am trying to explore its quirks and I think a manual mode would open up many creative options. Hey Photosynth! I'd be happy to beta test it! Fingers crossed.
Nathanael (Over 1 year ago)
I suppose that one question that comes to my mind is how the app decides which capture to go with if you've automatically shot several captures over the same area: perhaps one where a person was walking through the scene, one where they're gone, but perhaps the sky is overexposed and then one where the person is still gone but the sky is properly exposed and perhaps the horizon is underexposed.

If the app is currently unpredictable in which parts of which shots of that part of the pano it chooses for the final stitch (instead of just going with the last shot that covers that area) then I definitely see an advantage for a full manual capture mode that allowed me to prune down the number of shots that cover any part of the panorama, but if the current version of the app simply tries to go with the last shot that covered any particular part of the pano, then the current option for manual capture seems like it already provides the advantage.
videethis (Over 1 year ago)
see my previous reply
videethis (Over 1 year ago)
Manual shot doesn't always work (it goes red sometimes)
Nathanael (Over 1 year ago)
Ah, I see. I guess we were both typing at the same time there.

Perhaps the abstract distortions that come from 2D stitching trying to cope with a camera's shifting viewpoint are really what you're after. If that's the case then this may not interest you, but hear me out.

If you're interested in moving the camera around an environment, I think that you should check out the Photosynth app for Windows (which makes photosynths, instead of the panoramas that the mobile app makes). It doesn't attempt to merge any of the input photos, but rather, determines their positions and arranges them in 3D space around a sparse version of the subject.

You can view synths in the free iSynth app. Check out some of LostInTheTriangle, EdLee, and Ultrasound's work. Definitely check out 'Orbit Mode' and see how the Windows app has figured out the different camera positions throughout the scene.