Topic: Too many photos?

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lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
I shot over 1000 photos of the "Unfinished" Church in St. George's Bermuda, my aim was to get a great cloud point. Tried to upload for a few days but kept failing with the "out of memory errors" finally installed windows7 beta 64 and that worked first time!
Still have the problem of "flipping" photos, and jumping out of sequence. I wish there was a way to control them.
K (Over 1 year ago)
first of all, i'm sorry to hear that you had so much trouble, i'm sure that was frustrating.  i'm glad that you were able to get it to synth in the end, that point cloud is incredible!

one of the reasons that we display the warning at 300 photos is because adding more photos doesn't always make a better synth.  better point cloud yes, but it can be less fun to explore.  we're working on it though and hopefully some of the features we have planned will improve your synth in the future.
Cardinal (Over 1 year ago)
Try uploading in 150-250 picture slots and upload like that until you have only one set left to upload, then upload the previous ones and the ones you still need to upload. It will take time to produce the synth files, but the pictures you have already uploaded don't need to upload again.
lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
"K" Thanks for the info, and yes the point cloud is what I was really trying for.
lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
Thanks Cardinal, I think I follow you, would this also work with smaller sets of say 50 photos?
I will try a new shoot of something smaller, but try to focus on the detail.
Schn828 (Over 1 year ago)
I also got the out of memory error. Is that saying that the faster your machine is, the more you can do, and do them quicker?
lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
too many photos Schn828! I upgraded to 4 gigs (32 bit windows can not address max memory) and still got the memory error. The most I could upload with 32 bit windows was around 500 photos. 
Only thing that fixed it was windows 7 64 bit. That worked great. other than that I have a intel q6600 processor 2.4 gig 
and a gforce 8800 video card. (windows 7 beta is what vista should have been!!!)
madeeds (Over 1 year ago)
Schn828, what OS are you using.  There is a known issue that on some Windows XP SP2 machines the synther will run out of memory sooner than it should.  Installing WIC will fix this:
Schn828 (Over 1 year ago)
I am using 32bit vista. I am planning on getting a new computer around may, so I am hoping that I will be able to post some very large synths.
Schn828 (Over 1 year ago)
Yeah I run out around 800+ pics.
lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
Schn828 - go with 64 bit OS, and lots of Ram. (memory is really cheap now)
Pierrot21 (Over 1 year ago)
I have silly questions: 
1) is the processor important? (apart doing the work faster) any processor should finish the job, yes or no?
2) the OS is important to manage more memory; with XP-SP2 I can't have more than 3Mb?
3) Is it normal that a microsoft-program running on microsoft-OS does not make a better use of the memory (virtual memory???) and run out of memory and stop the job? Is it because it's still a beta-version ?
4) I have no graphic card; it doesn't matter to create a synth; but I find it low to show the pictures of a synth in a good resolution; would it be faster with a graphic card? (my web-connection is quite good)
Thank you for your advice
Schn828 (Over 1 year ago)
I am going to buy a new computer in may, and will be taking the 64 bit and all the memory I can get route. Thanks for the advice.
Marvin (Over 1 year ago)
Hi Pierrot21:
1) As long as you have enough memory, any processor should work (it may take a while though).
2) I assume you mean 3GB, right?  A 32-bit OS genrally runs out of address space at 4GB.  You simply can't "count" any higher.  For anything more, you'd have to eplicitly store things to disk, and that will slow things down.
3) Dunno.
4) The viewer is able to make use of higher-end graphics cards, so the experience should be better.  There should be no difference for the synther.
lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
From my experience the OS seems to be the biggest problem when dealing with large synths. 64 bit version of windows can address much more ram.

Question..Does photosynth take advantage of quad or dual core processors?
Pierrot21 (Over 1 year ago)
my very very small experience: I have two cores and it's using 100% of both cores! first time I see that!

(Marvin) thank you for your answer; I am not against using time (storing to disk) I can go to bed or watch TV, but I find it's very unfriendly when the program is stopping; what does 'dunno' mean in english (or french ;-)) Google couldn't translate ;-))
Hastarin (Over 1 year ago)
Dunno is slang for "I don't know".
lostinthetriangle (Over 1 year ago)
Hastarin (3 days ago) delete
Dunno is slang for "I don't know".
That's a word I have said a lot, but have never typed or written it!!!

Also another hint to conserve memory is to shut down programs that are not needed. Firefox can use over 150,000 k !!!
I can not even synth now as I am trying to recover data of of a bad drive. The recovery program is using over 800,000 k.........